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  As a private citizen, Ray McGovern says he is still able to keep up on international and domestic events in much the same way he did while working at the CIA.

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The rapid rise to prominence of the Islamic State (also known as ISIS or ISIL) has, in some quarters, been called a failure of US intelligence gathering.  McGovern doesn’t see it that way.

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McGovern speaks on “Human Rights and the National Security State” at 7 pm on Wednesday night, Sept, 24 night at the Glaser Center in Santa Rosa. The event is hosted by Project Censored.

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